Saturday, November 08, 2008

Love the 48?


For eight years, the right has fucked America hard, and its response to the left's demands that it stop has been "fuck you". Now the left should hug up?

Erm no. Now the left should pursue its agenda for eight years and get as much done as it can. The right can bite us! I pray that talk of bipartisanship is just talk, and that Obama brings some of that socialism that the right fears. It'll be good for America and good for the rest of us.

We should love them? Love the people who facilitated torture? Are you kidding? We should treat them with the deep animosity they have earned. Yeah, the world's in a tough spot. But they put us there. We don't need them to help us out of it.


It's curious, isn't it, to read all these people demanding that we should be all gracious and loveable now, but where were they five years ago? Where was the grace then, hey? Where were the Republicans against the really shit things Bush did?

And why did they vote for more of it?

That's the thing. Fuck the lot of them. They were willing to put Palin a heartbeat away from her finger on the trigger. They don't deserve anything at all but a kick in the nads.


At 2:09 am, Blogger Miz UV said...

So, what do you think of the Emanuel pick? He's a take no prisoners leftie, but also very pro-Israel. He also swears like a sailor. (I like him, obvii.)

At 2:43 am, Blogger $Zero said...

How can anyone not like Rahm after seeing that great photo of him whispering to Barack?

They look like the perfect team.

At 5:48 am, Blogger Dr Zen said...

Well, obv. he is a true blue, which is good, but he's a centrist, which I think should give people a clue what direction Obama intends to take.

I'm glad to see the back of Bush, excited by the choice of someone different, but ultimately, he's a centrist, corporate pollie, and he's going to disappoint anyone who wants progressivism.

But very good point about Emmanuel, he gets the job done. He works the levers. Clinton couldn't get anything done. Congress opposed him all the way and he could never create a big enough coalition. Obama could well make at least some progress. The big payoff remains though that McCain doesn't get to appoint someone who will overturn Roe or steal more rights, and Obama is at least a bit less likely to start another pointless war.

At 9:53 pm, Blogger $Zero said...

he gets the job done

Coffee is for Closers

At 2:45 pm, Blogger Arleen said...

I do not agree with you about not trying to work together. I realize that there are those who one simply cannot work with, and so one does what one can to push through what one believes in; however, it would be much better for this country if we could learn to come together and provide solutions for our problems that a majority of the population can get behind.

I know it's idealistic of me, but how can using the same tactics Bush used, i.e. forcing things down our throats, be good for the next president to use? Just because what he will do will supposedly be better for us, for our own good? I don't know.

Sal posted a commentary article written by a black lesbian judge who says that the courts will overturn prop 8 just as they've overturned other bad laws, and made the population accept things that are right, and maybe, just like misbehaving children, someone in authority needs to step in and spank us, metaphorically speaking, but there's a line there between the will of the people and what courts mandate. One of the things that has people upset is that they don't think the courts should have the power to make law, yet they do, which is why they have taken measures to make law that combats the court mandated law. I believe the people did the wrong thing in the case of Prop 8 and the amendment that passed here in Florida, but the fact remains that it should be the legislatures, working on behalf of the will of the people, making the laws, while the courts uphold them or determine if they are laws that can be upheld based upon state and federal constitutions.

Anyway, whether it be in personal relationships, or relationships on the world stage, coming together to find common ground and working from there OUGHT to be the way to go. When you strongarm people, you cause enmity and strife. Don't we have enough of that? Shouldn't we try to lead by example whenever possible?

At 6:28 pm, Blogger Dr Zen said...

Right, because we all hugged up and that got blacks in the front of the bus.

Oh no, fought for that one tooth and nail.

How about rights for unions? Bipartisan?

Oh no, they resisted that with clubs and guns.

blah blah etc etc.

The right relies on feebleminded fellow travellers like you. Were you asleep for the past eight years or something? Were all of you?

At 7:06 pm, Blogger Arleen said...

Oh, that's not what I'm saying at all, but go ahead and think what you will. You always do. Everyone else is wrong and you're always right.


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