On Gaza
Nails it. This article says what there is to say about Gaza. You'd need to be close to irrational, or a plain liar, to disagree with it imo.This is the key to the crisis:
In a broader sense, however, it is a war between Israel and the Palestinian people, because the people had elected the party to power.
My own view is that Israel decided to fuck Hamas when Hamas stopped being rejectionists. As soon as Hamas started saying it would accept an Israeli state, Israel's rationale for hurting the Gazan population started to be undermined. (You will not read many American commentators truthfully noting that Hamas no longer calls for the extinction of the Jewish state: rather, they routinely lie about it, as do politicians, and I doubt most Americans are aware that Hamas is not seeking the extinction of Israel at this point--although I accept that were it capable of achieving it, it probably still would.)
The undeclared aim is to ensure that the Palestinians in Gaza are seen by the world simply as a humanitarian problem and thus to derail their struggle for independence and statehood.
This is why they destroyed the (effective) government. Hamas should not be compared with Al Qaeda, but perhaps with the Tamil Tigers. (Curiously, the Tamils' struggle for justice is mostly ignored by the Western press. Not much oil in Sri Lanka though.)
I'm not keen on Hamas: its ideology is mostly repulsive and I don't believe that Islamic states have been successful, largely because they do not re-create the enlightened times of the Caliphate, but instead become playgrounds for fuckheads who enjoy imposing their personal morality on others. But it does not just aim to destroy: it has built too. It has served its community. It has never been, and even now is likely not, impossible for Hamas to find a constructive place in Palestine. It's hard to say the same for Israel though.
The problem with Israel's concept of security is that it denies even the most elementary security to the other community.
You could almost say that it denies even the rudimentary recognition of the other community's humanity. We know where that ends and this has to stop.
posted by Dr Zen @ 6:58 pm
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boots sez:
With regard to this bit you quoted,
"The problem with Israel's concept of security is that it denies even the most elementary security to the other community."
what you said was this:
"You could almost say that it denies even the rudimentary recognition of the other community's humanity. We know where that ends and this has to stop."
And I say that it does not deny recognition of the other community's humanity. It is simply a demand that the other undergo a canine obeisance ritual, that the other put its throat into Israel's mouth as a symbol of its total submission.
If Israel actually is denying even the most elementary security to the other community, that indicates that the Israeli state has forgotten what thousands of years of history taught the Jews, the small fact that mundane surrender means nothing in light of the larger reality, the fact that the concept of security is a human fabrication, nonexistent, a thumb for the mouth eternally seeking but not finding a breast of safety.
If that is what Israel is demanding then in essence they are demanding that the Palestinians bow down in worship to the state of Israel, and they might do well to consider that if "thou shall have no other gods before me" was important enough to carve into a fucking stone tablet, demanding worship from others could possibly be a thing severely frowned upon by their own God.
What goes around, comes around.
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